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# GuildWiki talk:Wintersday/Party

I want this party to be held. I'm going to found a guild and buy a guild hall if there is no other way. And it's a bad idea to delete the preparations page just because someone decides they don't want to host it any longer. So what date should it be? The time is likely to be from 9 pm GMT (4 pm eastern) to whenever. --◄mendel► 19:23, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

x means you can probably come if the party is on that date.

Mo 22nd Tu 23rd We 24th Th 25th Fr 26th Sa 27th Su 28th Mo 29th your ~~~ here
x x - x - x x x ◄mendel►
Mo 22nd Tu 23rd We 24th Th 25th Fr 26th Sa 27th Su 28th Mo 29th name

I'm not coming, neither is Salad or Felix as far as I know. (T/C) 20:13, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

We never said we wouldn't come; just that he is out of town from 19-24, and I'm gone from 26-3. --Shadowcrest 20:15, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
It's not a party if I'm not there. Blah, fine. I'll go mark the 25th. >.> (T/C) 03:56, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
I can't go any day from the 24th onward.--Łô√ë îğá†ħŕášħ 04:19, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
You guys start this right when Hanukah starts... Too bad. That means I can't come. Probably gonna be off the computer for a week or so because of Hanukah (Gonna go up to my cousins house, to celebrate). LostShadow 04:25, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't like the choice of day either but it really ends up as whichever day the most people can come...I don't think we'd have enough party stuff for more than one party, and people are running on tight schedules. >.> (T/C) 01:44, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm really sorry, but that's how it is - 2 out of 3 years you'll be fine as Hanukkah is earlier then. The problem plagues everybody else as well as the Christmas holidays are family time for some, so we're not free on all of these days either. But on the other hand choosing days outside the Christmas / Wintersday time means it's not really a Wintersday party. (I have no objections to having parties outside of Wintersday, but this one shouldn't be). --◄mendel► 20:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Hum, Christmas is looking like the day, I guess. Unfortunately then I can't make it as my family is in charge of Christmas this year, AGAIN. Which also means availability is limited before and we'll probably be cleaning up on Boxing Day. Say, Wintersday also encompasses New Years, dunnit? I don't suppose that setting the party around then is doable, is it? That'd be great, for me at least, and it might be good for people who need to set up for/are going away for Christmas/Hanukkah/whatever. Qing Guang 01:06, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I've got some fireworks left over from... whenever the event was that we got them. Not sure which day i'll be there, though.--Darksyde 08:16, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I will be there whatever day it is. We celebrate here on the Winter Solstice (the 21st this year). Whatever day you make it, I will be there. It is so nice to be in control of my own family for a change this year, No in-laws, and not my family either. No forced merriment with people who we don't like or being dragged to a church we do not believe in...er, wait got off on a tangent there sorry! Point is, you tell me when and where and I will be there!! Great, now I am starting to rhyme!!!--Saphyre the Wiccan 19:17, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

## Suggestion

How about announcing this in the Riverside Inn or Community News, Contests, and Events forum of GuildWarsGuru? You would get more people and more fireworks/alcohol/consumables/etc. Unless this was supposed to be a small party for Guildwikians. Misfate 15:59, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Thats actually quite a good idea — Warw/Wick 16:01, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Well this was supposed to be for GWiki people...it's not that I would mind more people, but having a suitable amount of party stuff becomes a problem, plus the fact that "we" wouldn't know "them" so the party may get kind of segregated. Also, because of the limit (see below section), we'd be holding it in an outpost...that means that we'd need to stay together and kinda have the place to ourselves, and the more people there are the harder that would get. I dunno. I guess it depends how many people can actually come - there's <10 right now so a few more wouldn't hurt. (T/C) 04:33, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

## Guild Guest Limit

iirc, you can only have up to 10 people guested at a time. Which might pose problems if you want more than 10 people not in your alliance to show up. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(talk) 21:24, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you can host it in an empty district somewhere instead of Entropy's guild hall. How hard can it be to find an empty district in a dying game? Misfate 21:27, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Shoot, I didn't realize there was a limit. The problem with using an outpost is that people don't necessarily have it, or even have the appropriate campaign. I would suggest Ice Tooth Cave, since it's deserted, snow/icy, and close enough to Lion's Arch so that a few of us could set up group runs there. The problem is that people without Prophecies would be excluded, and I really don't like that idea. 21:38, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
So we do the big mule alliance? --◄mendel► 22:54, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Edit ConflictQQ:Wish we could crash Wona's estate in the Togo BMP mission. It's big and winter-y. Lol. Maybe we could have it in the back-area of Zaishen Challenge? It's a Core area and has a nice waterfall, although it's not snow/icy. The big mule alliance thing sounds good, although people might have to leave their guilds or leave their alliance. Misfate 22:58, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't have a problem with my mule leaving my guild, and everybody's mains would get guest invites from the mules. --◄mendel► 23:35, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Korean/Chinese/Japanese/Any Dead Foreign District Great Temple of Balthazar. Everyone has GToB.--Darksyde 00:01, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Mendel, a guest to a guild can't visit that guild's allies. 00:02, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
GToB is dull though. Misfate 00:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Everyone has Zaishen Elite Challenge, that place is much less dull.--Łô√ë îğá†ħŕášħ 00:48, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Elite or challenge? I was making sure since having a party in a damp cave sounds like an epic idea. WRYY. Misfate 00:49, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Misfate, notice the ELITE bit I prefaced the name with.--Łô√ë îğá†ħŕášħ 01:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Maybe if they introduce something new this year (haha that's a good one) there will be some interesting new place to hang out.Entrea [Talk] 00:52, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
If a new place was introduced it would be totally full, and thus no good for a party. 00:59, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Random Arena looks like a good place too. Misfate 02:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Blah. Some place on the PvP islands would be the only option for Core, then. >.> I don't have access to foreign language districs, though... (T/C) 04:33, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Some outposts in the shiverpeaks are deserted even in American Districts, and that area is "wintery" enough.--TheHunger talk My contributions 19:00, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Prophecies != core (T/C) 01:44, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Um, how do you not have access to foreign language districts?--Łô√ë îğá†ħŕášħ 05:31, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Ever since the incident with the blind monkey, the midget sailor and the one-legged whore she's forbidden to leave her district. Or was that the one-legged monkey, the blind sailor and the midget whore? I forget these things. --◄mendel► 12:01, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Proph isn't core, but it's snowy. But EotN is even more snowy. So if we can't find a decent core place, go for Proph EotN. But Hero Battles looks soooooo much more party-like than Zaishen Elite. But w/o the ability to use foreign districts...--Darksyde 14:00, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
It looks like my international ban has been lifted as of last night. (T/C) 01:51, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
I feel that fewer people would have no EotN than those who would have no Proph... especially since Prophecies is now \$10. 01:57, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
That doesn't even make sense: Proph is cheaper than EotN so less people will have it? --◄mendel► 02:41, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Mistake with double negatives i guess, fewer ppl have eotn than prof. also eotn needs another game to get so, blah, just more stuff supporting more ppl with profAkbaroth 18:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, fortunately this year I have all games but not everyone does (and EotN is probably a lot of people's last priority, I would think). I vote GToB - lots of open space and it isn't all that bad really. Pity we can't use fireworks there, na? Oh, and Traditional Chinese is one of the best districts - my guildies and I go to China when we're having lag or playing hide and seek (haha), and I've seen about 2 other people there, total. Qing Guang 01:00, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
(had an idea) Hey, maybe we could set up a chart on the page for who would be able to go where, kind of like the availability chart? Qing Guang 14:42, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Or We could just make it simple. Have it Ice tooth cave and i'll run anyone that doesnt have it there. Ideally in groups of more than 1 but whatever. Its a nice cosy, quiet town with lots of snow, alternativly we could do marhans grotto and i could run people from Droknars to marhans, if you want something a bit "lighter". Happy to help Wild... This is Cake Townz! 16:24, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
The problem then lies with people who don't have the prophecies campaign. You can't run someone to somewhere in a campaign they don't have. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(talk) 16:49, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
But surely its the one the most people own? Ah well either way let knoe if you need me to be designated driver for the party. Wild... This is Cake Townz! 18:16, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
What, you've never downed a Dwarven Ale during a run? =P--Darksyde 05:14, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Here, I'll set up a chart and we can check off what campaigns we have, then see what the best place is. Also, looks like Christmas is no longer the day most people are available, yay! Qing Guang 18:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Or rather, I would have, except for some reason my edit refused to show up, so I got rid of it (in case I had mixed up the page at all). Qing Guang 18:37, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I'd just suggest to all participants bring sweets, tonics, drinks and party points we can mix up. And I don't understand why u people can do it on Xmas day, or is it typical for Americans to party with their family on another day? If so, then nevermind. Meraida 11:36, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
We're just impious liberals. (T/C) 18:05, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Actually, if you look at the chart, the days most people are availabe are the 22nd and 23rd. The only person who could not go those days is Felix, but of course that would pose a rather large problem as I believe he's doing the raffle. The other most available day is the 29th, which excludes Shadowcrest and Bob the Hick. I still don't know why no one's considered any date after the 29th, though - doesn't Wintersday run through New Year's or the day after? So it would still be technically a Wintersday party, and as far as I know most people don't celebrate New Year's until evening time really. But anyhow... there are apparently a ton of people who haven't marked the chart - maybe they are available all days? I dunno is happening. Qing Guang 06:12, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
I have no idea when i'm going to be capable of joining you, (it depends on multiple things) so idint sing up Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 10:18, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Qing, I made the chart by rule of thumb, feel free to extend it. The 31st would go into New Year's for Europeans most certainly, and up the 20th the holidays haven't really started, so I steered wide of those dates. Also, anybody who wants to come to the party and who doesn't have Prophecies should definitely either order it now or shout very loudly and suggest an alternative setting. --◄mendel► 11:42, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I'll do that probably after school or something, or at least I'll try. Qing = wikicoding failure, ha. My last chart was based on a copy/paste of that one, and it didn't even show up, so... but I'll try. Also, yeah, we've all been considering the Proph-less people, but we haven't actually heard any of them speak up, so maybe there aren't any/they aren't that set on coming? So the cave sounds like a good idea, I guess. Or we could try the Deldrimor War Camp, that's nice and snowy. But yeah, looks like Southern/Northern Shiverpeaks is the place to go~. Qing Guang

## event list

May I tell puns? I have some really good ones! (Guild Wars related, of course.) AnOriginalConcept 05:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

...that's no plague creature, that's my wife! I think that if you stick to punes, or plays on words, then you should be OK. We don't really have any sort of "event list" for teh party other than 1) Show Up and 2) Have fun, so I am sure we could use a court jester. (T/C) 05:25, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

## Uh-Oh

Someone signed w/ 3 tildes before me, but when i went to edit it, it was still showing up as ~~~ and automatically added my name to that too. Whoever added the line above me should re-enter their name/signature. Sorry.-- (Talk) (Contr.) 18:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

You destroyed the example. I think I fixed it. --- -- (contribs) (talk) 18:58, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

## sweets

Uh we might need sweets alot of new people I was talking to are going for sweet toothe. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ampking (contribs) .

We're working on it. I think. But you know, party favors are favors after all, so... (T/C) 06:06, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

## Free Runs to the Cave

If anyone needs them I will be offering free runs from LA or Ascalon City. Contact me in game, I will be offering them from tomorrow until the actual party. Tenetke Mekko 12:18, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Same here just from any location varying from borlis pass, frost gate, yak's bend, LA.... ASCALON <- yes i do give away free 1k per run invites.... etc... basicly anyone who gets a char to prophecies ill run him if need be Humble Servitor 09:12, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Uh...we're probably going to be in the Great Temple of Balthazar or other PvP outpost, unless everyone has Prophecies. Does the page say otherwise? (T/C) 10:37, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
erm ... when i clicked edit i genuinely had something to add ... but its gone. So ... erm ... I love lamp and this is cake townz! Wild... This is Cake Townz! 11:42, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes, Entropy, the page has said for few days now that we're going be going to Ice Tooth Cave unless someone shouts really loudly, and I haven't heard anyone protest ever since the suggestion came up here in this talk - unless you yourself don't have Prophecies? ;-) --◄mendel► 13:13, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
"GuildWiki hopes to host an in-game party somewhere on the PvP isles." Fine. (T/C) 13:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Well if some1 needs a run, my assasin can run anyplace, anywhere, anytime. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 14:22, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
OMG I remember what i was gonna write ... Wow my suggestion of Ice tooth actually worked! Power to the people! I guess i better make myself available for runs now ... IGN Wild Will Tbagya. PM me in game. Wild... This is Cake Townz! 16:49, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

So you want me to go into a dark, mysterious cave with you, and only you know the way back? Hmmm...--Darksyde 16:01, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Sounds romantic Darksyde xD Want me to go with you :P -- † The Falling One© 16:59, 12 December 2008 (UTC) BOB!
I trust you more than that other fellow, at least your name is pronouncable--Darksyde 21:40, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Dont fight the temptation Darksyde. If it helps on the name, my usual name is Wild ... and i Will Tbag YaWild... This is Cake Townz! 09:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

## Date (again)

Removed statement that Christmas appeared to be the best date because, as the chart now reads, it is in fact the second least popular date, after Boxing Day. Sooo, are we ready to set an actual date yet? I believe the 22nd and the 23rd are the most popular, although Felix is apparently unable to attend, which would interfere with the raffle (postpone it a while?). Or should we wait for more data? Qing Guang 00:28, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

## IP guests

I see no problem with guests who don't sign with their Wiki username (or don't have one); as it stands, we can't keep them from coming, and it is nice to recognize the name when they do attend. Nowhere is it stated that this is a party for editors only; for my part, Im be happy to welcome our readers, and unlike Secret Santo or the Raffle, we don't even need any means for contacting them. --◄mendel► 21:58, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

No reason why IP's cant show up at the party, chances are many more randomers will show up anyways :P. Maybe they should list their character name at least? ∞ ∞Ipo™∞ ∞ 22:04, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I assume that's what the name is. --◄mendel► 23:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Mendel; IPs are no less GuildWikians than anyone else. >.> Although it's completely up to the providers of party goods about who they want to share with. (T/C) 11:07, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

## Time

Question here. Will the Party be in the morning? Noon? Afternoon? Night? Midnight? I mean If it is at day I can't come than I need to work but after 5 o'clock I can come. I looked but can't really find it so. -- † The Falling One© 17:35, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

"20:00 UTC to 06:00 UTC (1 a.m. EST)" Says in artcle that is when most people are expected to be online, so closest we have to a time as of yet. No good at time zones etc, so gonna have to work it out for yourself :P ∞ ∞Ipo™∞ ∞ 17:43, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Ow yeah the time zone problem. Never understand that. They need to work on 1 time around the world. Makes it a lot easer for us all around the world gamers -- † The Falling One© 19:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Shame we dont all sleep the same time :P ∞ ∞Ipo™∞ ∞ 19:12, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Isn't EST(GMT -5) Eastern time (america), so if its 1am, then UK (GMT +0) would be 6am? So hopefully you can deduce your time zone from that. ∞ ∞Ipo™∞ ∞ 19:16, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
GMT+1, so that'll be 7 AM.. AM is in the morning, right? --- -- (contribs) (talk) 19:23, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeh it is, *groan* early rise :P, wasnt too far away with GMT +0 :P ∞ ∞Ipo™∞ ∞ 19:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Or a very long night (hey, if it's during my LAN weekend... Sleep is overrated anyhow!) --- -- (contribs) (talk) 19:29, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I finely Figured it out! The Netherlands (where I live) is UTC+1 with a simple math it's kind of simple:
$UTC = Time x UTC$ $Time = UTC : 1$ $UTC = Time x 1 = (Time)^1$ $Time = \sqrt{UTC}$ $UTC = (\sqrt{Time})^1$ There for: $UTC+1 = Dutch-Time-That-is-if-it-is-8-0'clock--UTC-it's-9-o'clock0UTC+1-in-Holland$ -- † The Falling One© 20:18, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Wouldnt that make GMT +0 for UK? windows clock thingy seems to think so :P ∞ ∞Ipo™∞ ∞ 20:15, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
If you trust this thing it is: -- † The Falling One© 20:18, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Falling One, the "1 time around the world" is UTC, the Universal coordinated time, which was "invented" by amateur radio operators, if I recall that right, because they needed to be able to log transcontinental connection times so both stations could find them. You can set the wiki (Recent Changes, History, and your watchlist) to operate in this time; the signatures use it by default. UTC is basically the same as GMT, whic his the time Great Britain uses in winter. If your time zone is GMT+1, you add 1 hour to the UTC time; if it is GMT-5, you subtract 5 hours. It is really that simple. The times are not fixed in stone yet. --◄mendel► 00:39, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Sooo, the party is guesstimated to be from noon to 10 PST? Wow, actually a reasonable time (for me and other West Coast people, at least), if I'm correct. I'm not good with timezones. Qing Guang 21:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
1 hour and 10 min to go if i'm right :P -- † The Falling One© 18:51, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Come on people! So many People Signet up but not many people are realy partying but still the night (and for some day) is young all who read come and party. (I Have to go btw but still have fun!!!) -- † The Falling One© 21:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Can't believe I missed most of it, who knew going to the mall for presents would take so long? The only people I remember seeing were entrea, Darksyde, and Falling one. Missed most of it, dang it. Arcdash 04:10, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Still you were there and it was fun right xD Hope to see you more on wiki too :P -- † The Falling One© 18:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

## Party Pics

Entrea gets a head cold at the GuildWiki Wintersday party.--Dosearius 23:24, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

The Elves getting their groove on during GuildWiki's Wintersday 2008 party.--Dosearius 01:34, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Why are my colors all messed up? My armor's all right, but the frosty hat and my skin are way darker than normal.Entrea [Talk] 06:30, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
You were standing in some shadow when i took the pic and I was simply too lazy to take another one in better lighting.--Dosearius 16:06, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Bah, I missed it D: Didn't notice a date being set. --- -- (contribs) (talk) 09:45, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

That was it at 10:40 EST last night. Not enough people, but still a little fun. 13:45, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

This is the most people we had when I was Online. Hope every one had fun :D I did my best to get the party started :P and I sure had fun even if there weren’t that many people -- † The Falling One© 18:46, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm in that pic, though I'm currently disguised as an elf...and yeah, though small, it was alot of fun.--Dosearius 21:56, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

## Next Year?

Is there going to be a party next year too? In GW or in GW2 :P -- † The Falling One© 11:34, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Next year there's going to be a site notice 24 hours before it starts, as it is clearly false to assume that whoever signs up will actually watch the page for the party and see the date being added... --◄mendel► 06:34, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
24 hours may be too short still. At least a week's notice would be good. (T/C) 06:44, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
With my group of RL friends, sending the invitation for a party 4 (!) week early is the only way to ensure anyone shows up. I think a moth early would be a good time to put up the notice. Also, pick a place and time before that, so people willing to come, can adjust their scedule accordingly. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 07:47, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, we were sort of adjusting the date to people's schedules. --◄mendel► 12:50, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
I think it would ultimately be better to set an arbitrary date far in advance and sorta force people to plan around it... it would guarantee a more certain attendance at any rate. The whole adjusting-until-the-last-minute thing just doesn't work that well, because only the very active users are likely to monitor such things. I mean, there were multiple people who had full intention to participate, but couldn't because they missed out on seeing the final date. (T/C) 13:24, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
So next time we need a fix date fix place and fix Dstr. I was 3 hours early and the most people I saw didn't know when it started (that GTM stuff) and didn't know the Dstr. It needs to be so that every one sees it and understands it :P -- † The Falling One© 13:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, site notice, 3 days should be enough IMO (and we had that, but no site notice); and the place was very good and should be kept, unless it's GW2, ofc. --◄mendel► 09:58, 30 December 2008 (UTC)