Talk: Dying Nightmare

== Blood is Power ==
Damn you Karlos! I woke up at 3AM to write down that they used BiP :P Is this new? Or is it just that somehow we both saw them near Coldfires for the first time? {{User:Skuld/Sig}} 01:45, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

I've seen them use BiP on the Aatxes.

:Wow, this is a bit late, but yes, if the necro uses SV on you, you'll see them kill themself with BiP on the cows/squids. --[[User:Karlos|Karlos]] 19:00, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

==Damage type weakness==
Does anyone know what type of damgage is most effective against Nightmares (specifically the Dying Nightmare's of the UW), I presume it should be light or holy damage but I'm not sure.... [[User:Arual|arual]] 06:53, 23 July 2006 (CDT)

:Please don't add stuff under completely unrelated headers :/ you can add a new one by typing <code><nowiki>==Heading name==</nowiki></code>. Or click the little "+" on top of the page next to edit &mdash; [[User:Skuld|Skuld]] {{Mo}}  07:12, 23 July 2006 (CDT)

:To answer your question, I would assume ele or physical damage, because it scales up with low armor. So, if you're asking about wands, don't use a wand that does Chaos, Dark or Holy damage I think. --[[User:Karlos|Karlos]] 19:02, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:But wands do light damage, and they also scale up with armor, as does chaos and dark, unlike untyped or shadow damage. I think he meant more like how ice golems are weak against fire and fire impsa gainst water. --Silk Weaker

::Hmm, didn't know that about Chaos, light and dark. --[[User:Karlos|Karlos]] 20:21, 3 October 2006 (CDT)

:I gathered some data on Cold and Dark damage when I was in the Underworld recently (~40 points for each damage type) and came up with some average values. For cold damage, Villnar's Claw uncustomized did 46.6 damage on average. For dark damage, The Stonereaper uncustomized did 46.2 damage. I think that amount of variance is probably due to my small amount of data points, and I'll update this when I get some more. But for now, my conclusion is the Necro's weapon damage type doesn't really matter, as long as it's customized. It would be interesting if we could get some data from monks on holy and light damage though. --[[User:Slocketman|Slocketman]] 00:30, 20 October 2006 (GMT-5)

::Since I do the UW both as a 55 and an SS necro, I know that in my experience they die with two hits 90% of the time, whether with a necro or a monk, my necro used to use a dark damage weapon, now a cold weapon, and my monk always used a holy rod. --[[User:Karlos|Karlos]] 00:04, 20 October 2006 (CDT)

:I have soloed with my Terra Tank for a long time now. I always used an earth staff i got from a collector modded the way i like it until recently. I bought a Ghostly Staff with Energy Storage requirement to use instead. I didn't think anything of it until I ran across a Dying Nightmare. I went to dispatch him quickly but it didn't happen quickly. As stated above, I usually dispatch one of them when they spawn 90% with two hits from a staff with Earth damage. With my new Ghostly Staff dealing lightning damage it took significantly more time to kill one. In fact, being able to kill them so quickly is the only thing that saves me most of the time because of where they spawn. Anyway, just thought I'd put my 2 cents in. They can take a lot of lightning damage. I just wish there was some way to find out what their armor rating is. [[User:Max2562|Max2562]] 00:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

== How To Counter ==

Hi, I Have A 55 N/Mo Build, And I Cant Get Around These Things, Does Anyone Have Any Ideas On A Way To Counter Them?

Im Sick Of Spending Like 8k A Day On Nothing... ^_^

My Stats Are....

Lvl. 20 N/Mo 55Hp

Blood Magic: 2+3
Soul Reaping 0+3
Curses: 12+1+3
Healing Prayers:8
Protection Prayers:10

Gear:

15 Armor Level
Shing Jea Armor
Cabalists)

A Totem Axe And A -50 Grim Cesta,
And A Wailing Wand(20-20 Curse) And A -50 Grim Cesta

Skills:
1.Protective Spirit
2.Spirit Bond
3.Guardian
4.Spiteful Spirit
5.Shadow Of Fear
6.Essence Bond
7.Balthazars Spirit
8.Mending

So Can Anyone Please Help Me?

My GW Name Is Synthetic Ian, So If Im On You Can Whisper Me... [[Image:Hi-res-Favorable_Winds.jpg|19px]] '''[[User:Synthetic Ian|<font color="#900020">Synthetic Ian'''</font>]] 05:00, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

:Here's a flawless way to counter them: Bring a balanced party. 8 balanced party members will cut through these (and anything else too, if they're careful). Can't beat the unbeatable-ness of a real party. -[[User:Auron of Neon|Auron]] [[Image:Elit Druin.jpg|||My Talk]]  21:02, 16 November 2006 (CST)

::Yea, I got a solution. Do ya need Guardian? How bout Shadow of Fear? Well, if you didnt need one, you could, in theory, take out one and put in [[Spinal Shivers]]. If you wait for these things to pop up, click it as soon as it pops up, and start casting Spinal. If you finish in time, you may be able to wand it before it finishes casting, interrupting it and giving you time to kill it. Or, alternatively, you could use [[Spell Shield]] (I know, divine favor, just bear with me.) and cast it before aggroing. When you see one pop up, start casting some spell that takes longer than 1 second to cast. Balth Spirit, Shadow of Fear, Mending, I dont care. Spell shield WILL protect you from the spell and you can wand it from there. The downsides of both spells: Spinal = Energy loss, Spell Shield = skills disabled. I was just thinking of those one day when I was thinking of a UW soloist, and that would work I hope. Just trying to help, [[Image:Glimmer_of_Light.jpg|20px]] [[User:paintballerOWNZ|The Paintballer]] ([[User_talk:PaintballerOWNZ|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/PaintballerOWNZ|C]])

lol, thanks guys but i made this when i was still a noob, and i have learned that there are far better ways of farming the underworld, but thank you all for you contribs :D [[Image:Hi-res-Favorable_Winds.jpg|19px]] '''[[User:Synthetic Ian|<font color="#900020">Synthetic Ian'''</font>]] 05:00, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

== Undead ==
If I put an undead mod on my necro's staff, will it increase the damage I deal to these things by 20%? --[[User:Curin Derwin|Curin Derwin]] 16:27, 1 April 2007 (CDT)
:This is a Nightmare, not Undead. <span class="sigpic">[[User:RoseOfKali|RoseOfKali]] [[Image:RoseOfKaliSIG.png]]</span> 22:46, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

== Hard Mode ==

These things hurt like hell in hard mode D:
Looks like i'll be soloing in normal :)


== hmm... ==
When soloing the underworld, I have noticed that Dying Nightmares now BIP their allied phantoms (grasping darkness) when in need of energy because of my visages.  In the notes, it says they don't aid their allied phantoms, but in this case they do.  Could the notes be wrong?  Can someone support me?[[Image:Pogsigv2.jpg]]<small>([[User_talk:PoG|t]]-[[Special:Contributions/PoG|c]])</small> 10:15, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
:I am perfectly posivite about the fact that they bip phantoms. I am removing that part.[[User:90.33.47.179|90.33.47.179]] 10:13, 27 June 2007 (CDT)

== Spawn ==
Should we note that they only spawn when there's a patrolling aatxe? [[User:System Of A Guild|System Of A Guild]] 15:27, 16 May 2007 (CDT)
:No, because its not true ,   their spawn is triggered by u entering the agro of the place they will spawn, not mob specific [[User:Neogeo|Neogeo]] 17:29, 27 May 2007 (CDT)
::Sometimes they are attached to groups sometimes they are not. -- [[User:Xeon|Xeon]] 02:03, 7 August 2007 (CDT)

== Drop rate ==

While solo farming I've noticed that unlike any other foe (not just in UW, I mean anywhere), the Dying Nightmare will drop ''some''thing around 90% or more of the time you kill one. Which is too bad since their drops are crap and they don't have Ecto. :( Any other creatures, like Raptors or Grasping Darkness or Mindblade Spectres... I can kill bunches of them in big groups, and get maybe like 5 items max from 20-something. [[Image:Entropy Sig.jpg]] ([[User_talk:Entropy|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Entropy|C]]) 08:15, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

:For me, they drop grapes and golds very often. Esp in contrast to other creatures *Cough* graspings *cough*. --- [[Image:VipermagiSig.JPG|Ohaider!]]-- <small>[[User talk:Vipermagi|<span style="color:black;cursor:crosshair">(s)talkpage</span>]]</small> 13:59, 5 November 2008 (UTC)