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== Survivor with Books ==
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I just copied over the tables and a couple of my comments from the original archived conversation, which is [[User_talk:Rose_Of_Kali/Archive_1#Survivor_with_Books|here]].
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As promised a while ago, here's a quick run through of how many full books it would take to get [[Survivor]] 3, which requires 1,337,500 XP, with a little of my commentary.
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{| {{STDT}}
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!rowspan=2| Book !!rowspan=2| missions !!colspan=2| max XP !! colspan=2| books for S3 !!rowspan=2| Notes
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!  NM  !! HM !! NM !! HM
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| [[File:The Flameseeker Prophecies (Hard Mode).png]] || 18 || 80k || 120k || 16.7 || 11.1 || longest book; highest reward; many missions are very long and some can fail close to the end
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| [[File:Shiro's Return (Hard Mode).png]] || 11 || 40k || 60k || 33.4 || 22.3 || short; Eternal Grove and Imperial Sanctum may be tough with AI team
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| [[File:Night Falls (Hard Mode).png]] || 17 || 60k || 90k || 22.3 || 14.9 || long; Dzagonur Bastion and Gate of Madness can be a pain with AI
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| [[File:Young Heroes of Tyria.png]] || 12 || || 67.5k* || || 19.8 || short; HM only; simple starter missions; * XP reward varies depending on where you turn it in, and is highest from Gordon Ecker
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| [[File:Hero's Handbook (Hard Mode).png]] || 11* || 40k || 60k || 33.4 || 22.3 || shortest book; easy once you master DD and ATFH; faster than Young Heroes; * 5/16 entries are automatically complete after the first time
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|}
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* In conclusion, I would place my top bet on [[Young Heroes of Tyria]] or [[Hero's Handbook]].
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** YHoT is relatively short and very simple, even in HM, since these are starter missions. You can also choose to get 4,500 SS or LB rep or a cool 90k Kurz/Lux ''title'' points at the cost of <sup>1</sup>&frasl;<sub>3</sub> of the XP, increasing the number of books needed from 19.8 to 29.7. If you do 30 books and take them to Cantha, you will get an impressive 2,700,000 faction ''title'' points - more than rank 8 if you start from scratch, or over {{1/4}} of the entire title track! - Note these are not actual faction you can spend, but go straight to your title track.
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** Hero's Handbook is easy and fast if you can run Destruction's Depths reliably, and provides nice rep rewards for EotN titles, if you don't have them yet.
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* Note that the decimal points in the number of books required do not scale with the number of completed pages because of the "buffer" missions. They're only there instead of just a straight rounded up integer to show how close you are and if you'll need most of another book or can go kill a couple of worms in Ice Cliffs to finish up the title.
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* [[User:Rose Of Kali|Rose Of Kali]] [[Image:Rose Of Kali SIG.png]] 21:18, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
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=== Time/XP/risk ===
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{| {{STDT}}
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! !! XP gained !! time !! risk !! notes
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| Great Northern Wall || 3,500 || 12 min || low ||
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| Fort Ranik || 4,600 || 17 min || low ||
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| Ruins of Surmia || 8,700 || 28 min || med || popups, patrols and Rurik can cause overaggro
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| Nolani Academy || 5,000 || 19 min || med || patrols and Rurik can cause overaggro
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| Borlis Pass || 4,700 || 19 min || low ||
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| The Frost Gate || 5,300 || 19 min || low ||
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| Gates of Kryta || 3,800 || 17 min || med || lack of corpses for meatshields, spike dmg, Hablion overaggroes and fails the mission -> best not to trigger him
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| Minister Cho's Estate || 4,200 || 11 min || low ||
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| Zen Daijun || 3,200 || 12 min || high|| multiple eles with Mind Burn targetting backline -> my only deaths -> keep Prot Spirit up at all times
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| Chahbek Village || 1,100 || 4 min || low ||
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| Jokanur Diggings || 2,800 || 11 min || med || fire traps + mobs that will happily finish you off after walking through one
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| Blacktide Den || 2,400 || 12 min || med || Grenth's Balance + Skale stampede
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! Total !! ~49k ||181 min || med || should be 0 deaths with experience and caution -> learn the spawns
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* If you can survive filling 12 YHoT books without any deaths, you can do the title in only 144 missions and about 36 hours of playtime (15 books, 180 missions and 45 hours if you want the 1.35M Kurz/Lux title points instead).
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* [[User:Rose Of Kali|Rose Of Kali]] [[Image:Rose Of Kali SIG.png]] 20:09, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Revision as of 18:22, 15 June 2011

User:Rose Of Kali/Archives

Survivor with Books

I just copied over the tables and a couple of my comments from the original archived conversation, which is here.

As promised a while ago, here's a quick run through of how many full books it would take to get Survivor 3, which requires 1,337,500 XP, with a little of my commentary.

Book missions max XP books for S3 Notes
 NM  HM NM HM
The Flameseeker Prophecies (Hard Mode) 18 80k 120k 16.7 11.1 longest book; highest reward; many missions are very long and some can fail close to the end
Shiro's Return (Hard Mode) 11 40k 60k 33.4 22.3 short; Eternal Grove and Imperial Sanctum may be tough with AI team
Night Falls (Hard Mode) 17 60k 90k 22.3 14.9 long; Dzagonur Bastion and Gate of Madness can be a pain with AI
Young Heroes of Tyria 12 67.5k* 19.8 short; HM only; simple starter missions; * XP reward varies depending on where you turn it in, and is highest from Gordon Ecker
Hero's Handbook (Hard Mode) 11* 40k 60k 33.4 22.3 shortest book; easy once you master DD and ATFH; faster than Young Heroes; * 5/16 entries are automatically complete after the first time
  • In conclusion, I would place my top bet on Young Heroes of Tyria or Hero's Handbook.
    • YHoT is relatively short and very simple, even in HM, since these are starter missions. You can also choose to get 4,500 SS or LB rep or a cool 90k Kurz/Lux title points at the cost of 1⁄3 of the XP, increasing the number of books needed from 19.8 to 29.7. If you do 30 books and take them to Cantha, you will get an impressive 2,700,000 faction title points - more than rank 8 if you start from scratch, or over ¼ of the entire title track! - Note these are not actual faction you can spend, but go straight to your title track.
    • Hero's Handbook is easy and fast if you can run Destruction's Depths reliably, and provides nice rep rewards for EotN titles, if you don't have them yet.
  • Note that the decimal points in the number of books required do not scale with the number of completed pages because of the "buffer" missions. They're only there instead of just a straight rounded up integer to show how close you are and if you'll need most of another book or can go kill a couple of worms in Ice Cliffs to finish up the title.
  • Rose Of Kali Rose Of Kali SIG 21:18, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Time/XP/risk

XP gained time risk notes
Great Northern Wall 3,500 12 min low
Fort Ranik 4,600 17 min low
Ruins of Surmia 8,700 28 min med popups, patrols and Rurik can cause overaggro
Nolani Academy 5,000 19 min med patrols and Rurik can cause overaggro
Borlis Pass 4,700 19 min low
The Frost Gate 5,300 19 min low
Gates of Kryta 3,800 17 min med lack of corpses for meatshields, spike dmg, Hablion overaggroes and fails the mission -> best not to trigger him
Minister Cho's Estate 4,200 11 min low
Zen Daijun 3,200 12 min high multiple eles with Mind Burn targetting backline -> my only deaths -> keep Prot Spirit up at all times
Chahbek Village 1,100 4 min low
Jokanur Diggings 2,800 11 min med fire traps + mobs that will happily finish you off after walking through one
Blacktide Den 2,400 12 min med Grenth's Balance + Skale stampede
Total ~49k 181 min med should be 0 deaths with experience and caution -> learn the spawns
  • If you can survive filling 12 YHoT books without any deaths, you can do the title in only 144 missions and about 36 hours of playtime (15 books, 180 missions and 45 hours if you want the 1.35M Kurz/Lux title points instead).
  • Rose Of Kali Rose Of Kali SIG 20:09, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
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