User talk:PanSola

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new skill list template

Sorry to post this here, wasn't sure where the new templates were discussed (feel free to post a link, and I'll move it there). Re: new templates used on Mesmer skills quick reference, I noticed that the new template doesn't seem to include the marker for questable skills. I realize there are very few that are in Factions, but many of them are questable in Prophecies. I think that's a useful column to include. Or has this already been discussed, or did I overlook it? --I am 161.88 12:31, 19 May 2006 (CDT)

It's kind of brought up here and there, but not fully explored. There are special complications with respect to Core skills, as a certain skill cound be questable in Campaign 1, 2, 4 and 5 but not in campaign 3 etc. THis is a problem even for the existing system, and I have not though of a satisifactory solution to it. Having a different icon for all possible combinations is out of the question IMHO. Having separate icons for each campaign feels too bulky. Simply marking it as questable if it is questable for any campaign seems to either mislead people or lost value (ppl would have to check the skill page to see which campaign it is questable for). I am open to suggestions though. -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 12:57, 19 May 2006 (CDT)

Hmmm, I see your point, I hadn't considered where the same core skill may/may not be questable depending upon which combination of campaigns the player owns. The only thing that I can think of is to have an icon that represents "This skill is questable in at least one campaign, see skill description for details"; but I'm not sure if that's any better than just leaving out the mention in the list. --I am 161.88 13:08, 19 May 2006 (CDT)

Thanks

Just thought I'd say thanks for helping me out there with the Monk 15k Kuzrick Icon picture. Still figuring a lot out about GuildWiki just trying to help out. :) -Axodious

I wanted to thank you. I'm a long time user of GuildWiki, but am just now starting to contribute. I'm learning alot about editing just from looking at your User page and posts.--Xis10al 05:52, 23 May 2006 (CDT)

18 DA

There isn't a +1 deadly arts mod.. Skuld 17:12, 19 May 2006 (CDT)

Compass

The game calls it the "compass" in the UI customization window. --68.142.14.52 10:16, 20 May 2006 (CDT)

Arg, the game calls it the mini map in the Monastery Overlook tutorial... sigh, I'll move it back. -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 10:18, 20 May 2006 (CDT)

Heh. I skipped the tutorial, so I didn't know. What do the manuals call it? I don't have any to check. --68.142.14.52 10:21, 20 May 2006 (CDT)

No manual here, still waiting for my CE. I was basing it off a screen shot during head start event. -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 10:23, 20 May 2006 (CDT)

I just checked my manual. It refers to the area in the Compass as the "mini-map" (pg 79), and the window shown by pressing 'U' as the "Area map" (pg 82). --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 10:34, 20 May 2006 (CDT)

The redirects you added in relation to this issue

When you moved around the pages you created a double redirect issue, however unintentional. However I could not determine where you wanted the actual talk page so I removed both redirects. you had Talk:Mini map redirecting to Talk:Compass redirecting to Talk:Mini mpa (obvious misspelling) so could you place the content of Talk:Mini mpa wherever it belongs? Also I think compass article should have a talk page of its own and not be a redirect. --Draygo Korvan 12:12, 22 May 2006 (CDT)

Shiro edit

Sorry about the erroneous reversion. I was specifically reverting the edit of User:Potfish and didn't see your edits at the time; yet your edits were clearly there for more than a half hour before I did my reversion. I have noticed some odd timing issues recently, but only on a scale of a couple minutes, nothing like this, so I can't blame a system problem for the fault - it was all me. I'll be more careful in the future! --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 09:17, 23 May 2006 (CDT)

Template:Icon

Mate, I have to say I'm not happy with the note you added to Template:Icon. First of all, the template is meant to be used not only for skills, but also for items, so the new name Template:Skill icon is a bad choice. But even more: I said in the discussion that I wouldn't mind a change of the template, provided that the person who hijacks the template for different use fixes all those articles that already use the old template. But you didn't bother to fix them. Instead you simply put in that note (without prior discussion), which makes all the articles look ugly, and leave the fixing to others. This is not a nice way to handle this! </grumpy> -- 10:27, 24 May 2006 (CDT)

Apologies. To make sure we are on teh same page, I'm actually not the one who picked the new name "Skill Icon". I proposed "Article icon" and I still think that's a better name compared to "Skill icon", but didn't bother to bring up that particular point in discussion. As for the other point, I thought it meant if I changed the template so old use of it becomes broken (that's what I thought "hijacking" meant), I would be responsible for fixing it. Right now the template still functions as old, not broken, just with an additional message. I took the action with the simple intention of making the transition message appear so it'll be noticed and fixed as ppl see them (didn't have the energy to do a crusade, like the skill articles). Once again, apologies. -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 10:36, 24 May 2006 (CDT)

Accepted. :) There seems to be a general disagreement about the use of the template anyway. Several other main contributors and admins remove the template alltogether wherever they see it (see: Talk: Afflicted Horror). This disagreement should be resolved before I continue to use the template. -- 06:30, 29 May 2006 (CDT)

Database testin'?

Let's just say I'm asking out of fellow curiousity? Grave is telling me there'll be another one brought online soonish so I'm wondering if you were testing bugs, speed, or whatever. It's good information to have. --Nunix 09:05, 26 May 2006 (CDT)

Testing load to see if it's affecting speed or causing errors. Specifically Mesmer skills quick reference. I'll hold it still for one more week see how much errors are we getting, and decide whether to add load or decrease load for furthur study, since we have been getting database errors before I started the experiments (including that really major one). -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 12:06, 26 May 2006 (CDT)

Wrong skill icon

There are wrong icons in skills: Mantra of Signets and Mantra of Inscriptions. They are switched. I am new to wiki and I am not sure if I can change it by myself. In fact I dont know how.

That's a REALLY good catch. I've fixed it. Thanks for reporting. -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 13:45, 26 May 2006 (CDT)

Assassin's Promise | Clarification

you say " This skill only affects skills with a recharge time." isnt that obvious? skills without recharge times dont have to recharge xD

Like Resurrection Signet and Celestial skills? -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 05:58, 29 May 2006 (CDT)

User_upgrade_general_prefixes

I adjusted it according to some/most of your suggestions. Furious works for me but Vampiric refuses. And I still haven't tackled sundering. Colour code overrides for non-BGGreenyes values seem to be going good, as you'll see from my userpage. -- Dashface 07:21, 1 June 2006 (CDT)

Monk non-attribute elites not showing "no attribute" text

Monk_skills_quick_reference#No_Attribute the two elites aren't showing the text that says no attribute and theyre leaving a blank cell at the end, is this a bug or bad filling in of {{Martyr}} (I notice it looks different to {{Essence Bond}} for example)? — Skuld 07:35, 10 June 2006 (CDT)

I've just fixed this by making the template like the others. Not quite sure what the problem was, but you can look in the history if you want to investigate. --Theeth (talk) 08:37, 10 June 2006 (CDT)

thanks — Skuld 08:39, 10 June 2006 (CDT)

The "profession=hide" is supposed to hide the profession and the attribute cell, because I consider them redundent. The hiding effect only takes place if in the skill template the "profession = Monk". -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 12:18, 10 June 2006 (CDT)

I get it now. Thanks for the explanation. --Theeth (talk) 16:32, 10 June 2006 (CDT)

Armor articles

Just wanted to say, despite what at least one person has said recently, I think you did a damn fine job on the new armor articles. =) I may end up adding to them sometime in the future, if I can figure it out (I can be slow sometimes). --Rainith 02:51, 11 June 2006 (CDT)

Seconded. It's very easy to find what you want if you start from the index on the main page. I find it very handy, though I mostly just look up appearance. I can see how Ritualist/Ritualist's might be confusing to some (particularly non-native English speakers), but that's just because basic armors have profession names. — 130.58 (talk) (02:59, 11 June 2006 (CDT))

Yeah that part annoyed me to no end... Anet really doesn't care about helping us keeping all the names straight. >_<" -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 03:18, 11 June 2006 (CDT)

Old Skill Template..

Ok, all the skills in my user page are messed up now because someone depricated the old skill box. Which, for the life of me, I cannot comprehend. It goes against software design to break old stuff just to force people to use new stuff. Anyways, hwo do I get it to work? --Karlos 13:27, 11 June 2006 (CDT)

Sorry. Um, revert? (keep the categories though) -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 13:29, 11 June 2006 (CDT)

Mimes

Yes they are! Corollary: mimes are useless anywhere. --  Bishop [rap|con] 17:07, 13 June 2006 (CDT)

"A mime is a terrible thing to waste" --161.88.255.140 17:22, 13 June 2006 (CDT)

Let's invent a FF5 dual version and my miming party will kick your sorry 'hind everywhere d-: -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 17:33, 13 June 2006 (CDT)

Skillbox Templates: I need your help

Just one question: is it true that the current templates for skill quick references (skill box row etc.) require advanced syntax in the skill templates they include? If so: is there a reason why? I would not want the basic wiki contributor (including me) to write advanced syntax for the skills to display properly on quick reference (and other) pages. --Chi Li 07:06, 14 June 2006 (CDT)

Hiding stuff. requires advanced template. If you don't hide stuff, basic template will suffice. GuildWiki:Style and formatting/Skills also mentions a very easy way that converts basic syntax to advanced syntax, by using a subst template. -User:PanSola (talk to the ) 07:07, 14 June 2006 (CDT)

Thanks, now I begin to understand what the "do this to convert to advanced template" means :) Unfortunately that implies another crusade (or bot?) on the existing skills, as quite many of them are coded in standard syntax. BTW: how does that subst react to Templates that already are in advanced syntax? --Chi Li 07:19, 14 June 2006 (CDT)

It adds a redundent layer of parameter passing, but doesn't break anything in terms of actual functionality. And again, as long as you don't hide stuff the standard syntax will suffice (like for the Monk skills quick refernce).-User:PanSola (talk to the ) 07:21, 14 June 2006 (CDT)

I thought more about others trying to hide and wondering what caused the resulting errors. And thanks for improving the 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4 templates, they do now no longer break the SkillBoxStats template .) --Chi Li 07:50, 14 June 2006 (CDT)

For your consideration

Don't know if you're at all interested in this, but I'd appreciate your feed back here about this. --Rainith 00:42, 15 June 2006 (CDT)

Request protection and temporary blocks

Please protect Game updates/20060615 and place a temporary block on the users User:Karlos and User:Stabber. Revert war in progress. Thanks. — Stabber ✍ 20:57, 15 June 2006 (CDT)