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Hey Wolfie, I've seen that you do a lot of "cleaning up" pages around the wiki (which is great work btw). I've been trying to contribute as best as I can, but I don't want to add stuff to articles and then make you come behind me to clean it up. So, what style guides do you stick to, or in other words, what Style Guides do you use most frequently?
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Hey Wolfie, I've seen that you do a lot of "cleaning up" pages around the wiki (which is great work btw). I've been trying to contribute as best as I can, but I don't want to add stuff to articles and then make you come behind me to clean it up. So, what style guides do you stick to, or in other words, what Style Guides do you use most frequently? [[User:Vidar816|Vidar816]] 21:58, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

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Fire and Pain Walkthrough

Can I use it in GWW?Ereanorsignreanor 22:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Please understand am not trying to be mean, but I believe the short answer is, no. As with most articles on GuildWiki, that walkthrough is a conglomeration of a number of author's contributions and so to my knowledge, you would need to gain the permission from each author that contributed content to that walkthrough. This, I believe was one of the major "roadblocks" for when ArenaNet were originally looking at putting together their plans for a wiki, they wanted to gain all of GuildWiki's content, but the licensing terms prevented them from doing so (primarily because they wanted to operate their wiki under different licensing terms than here). If someone can shed more light of this, or better yet, can provide a link to where this has surely already been discussed, please enlighten. --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 00:32, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, I checked the History of the article, and you're the only author except for the last line, wich I can omit or rewrite myself. I'm asking you for a reason.Ereanorsignreanor 00:48, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
No, I can't take credit for that walkthrough, actually just took a number of lines from the Notes section and cleaned them up into a walkthrough (checkout the edit made at 10:24, October 24, 2007 (UTC), this will show a number of lines from the Notes being removed and altered into a walkthrough), so not mine to give, sorry. --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 01:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Alright, thanks anyway.Ereanorsignreanor 03:51, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Interwikis

Cookie

Thanks!

Thanks. I was thinking they'd need to be done with a bot, but you did it yourself! Angela 03:24, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Saw the list, was a lot shorter than expected (in terms of mainspace articles), so figured would probably take longer to write a script, check and test it, and apply; than to just rip through and do it manually. Whereas, for all the talk pages with "w:" type links, is likely better if a bot is used; less chance someone be offended about having "their" talk page or comments on a talk page being altered by an automated process. Thanks for the choc-chip cookie, my favourite! :D --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 21:51, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

User Page (at last)

Well, after six months of sporadic planning (you can't rush these things ya know!), have finally gotten around to posting my user page. Hope you all like it. At this time, I am not giving permission to use, copy or modify any part located in my userspace, but if there is suffient interest, may consider creating a "character dossier" style template for public use (the current version was purpose-built with little of the flexibility a more general-use version should have). --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 00:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Congrats! It's about time, too! --Marcopolo47 signature new (Talk) (Contr.) 00:38, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
It was almost like your sig was in red font you took so long! --Xasxas256 11:42, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, nice to hear from you again Xasxas! Hehe, would never use a red font to "fake" a missing link. No, was just couldn't see that anyone would care what my characters were, had achieved etc, and judging by the number of responses in the week since posting it, my instincts were about right. But learning wiki-code to make my character dossier template was enjoyable, so was fun if only for that reason. --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 00:40, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
You may be the only person I've ever heard saying that learning wiki code is fun. 0.o --Marcopolo47 signature new (Talk) (Contr.) 01:07, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
hehe, then you probably don't wanna know over the years I've programmed in everything from assembly language for the trusty ol' 6502 CPU (hands up all those old enough to remember the Apple ][ and brave enough to admit it), to Pascal (and still my sentimental favourite), BASIC, Fortran, right through to C++, PHP, and things like HTML, XML, CSS and other such "webby" code-structures, at last count we worked out I'd used something like ~25 "languages", more like 36 if take into account different dialects etc. So adding wiki-code was easy enough to understand. Computer languages is very much like human languages, once you've mastered your 2nd or 3rd language, others become easier. Of course computer languages have a much shorter "shelf life" that human ones, so memory wise, it's out with the old, and in with the new. :) --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 01:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

repost

i reposted without the advert tho :S ™Cookie™

*sigh*

By the looks things, we've had one heck of a day swatting vandals, why do they persist to waste their time and ours? :( --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 05:28, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Because they = phail@life --Marcopolo47 signature new (Talk) (Contr.) 20:28, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Good work with the cat fixes

Its probably not very exciting work, but you're doing it anyway. Anyway, I just noticed, and thought you deserved a job-well-done. :) --Shadowcrest 02:52, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, about as much fun as watching grass grow! --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 02:54, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Poor cats, who broke them? :P Lord Belar 02:52, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

MEOW!?!! rofl, thanks needed a giggle. --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 02:54, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Thankfully, my cat doesn't need fixing. We already had her spayed. :) Lord Belar 02:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Classic example where shorthand "fixing categories" to "cat fix", and totally missing the fact it would be taken to mean something completely different. Though, I am sure to get some filthy looks from my ranger's pet Melandru's Stalker next time I load up that character. :D --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 03:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
/suspect IPs >.< --Shadowcrest 02:54, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Eh? --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 03:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, taking a break from "cat fixing" (it really is not a fun task), but was able to get 139 "wanted categories" reduced down to just 75. There are more that can be fixed up, but there is always another day for those. :) --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 04:28, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch. I have it on my Todo list but won't ever get around to it, as you can see it is dreadfully boring :) Entropy Sig (T/C) 09:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Has been quite some time since my last big cleanup of those, now I remember why I didn't rush back for more! :D Still, hopefully made things just that little bit easier to find, and less red-links is always a good thing. --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 06:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Editing Peoples Userspace..

Before doing that, ask their permission. Many people consider it rude for somoen to walk up to their usepage and start making edits to it. Before editing somones userspace, ask them. --Warwick sig Warwick (Talk) (Contr.) 23:52, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

When making general edits, spelling, grammer changes etc, then yes absolutely. Correcting categories is one of the few exceptions, along with fixing broken links are considered acceptable, so long as that is all the edit is for. I also, do leave a message on the user's talk page explaining the reasoning behind the change, so they not left wondering why. --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 23:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Good Work, yet again...

With the Getting started (Eye of the North) article!--Marcopolo47 signature new (Talk) (Contr.) 01:26, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Might want to consider changing "New player campaign guides" to "New player guides", for those nit-pickers about campaign <--> expansion. --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 01:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Good idea, yet again... --Marcopolo47 signature new (Talk) (Contr.) 01:29, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I have my moments. :D --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 01:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, only all the time! :P--Marcopolo47 signature new (Talk) (Contr.) 01:32, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Err...I already deleted that article once before because I deemed it unnecessary. However, due to ANet's recent update, I guess they also want to help out the newbies. So I guess we can keep it. Entropy Sig (T/C) 09:13, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
I can see some people have questioned it's purpose, will post my thoughts on Talk:Getting started (Eye of the North). --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 05:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Have I started an image "spring clean"?

By the looks of the recent changes log, seems my most recent trawling through the generic "Gw###" type files has triggered a bit of an image cleaning frenzy. This is a good thing, though I think Entropy might not be so over-joyed at all the extra deleting work, soz ;) --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 00:19, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

There are so many unused images Oo --VeneliX 00:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Indeed, there have been a number of discussions in the past and a few trialed plans for tackling the "aged" unused images, and the more legally important issue of un-attributed images (ie, images without a license tag), however last I read, there was something like 25,000 un-attributed images! So even with the use of bots to automate some of the tagging etc, is still a massive undertaking. I do try to scan through the generic GW### files every now and then, but as for the rest, have tried to re-invigorate discussions, but always stumbles over the sheer volume of images. It might just have to come to the point where we "bite the bullet" and just knuckle down do a big-hit cleanup, or consider ways of dividing the job into smaller, more manageable parts, and just progress through one step at a time, but either way, won't be quick or easy. --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 00:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Do you know...

...what tag should be placed on an image needing to be uploaded under a more specific name? --Shadowcrest 01:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

There does appear to be a little confusion over this. There's the {{Image update|Reason}}, but then there's the far less used Copyvio, Incorrect copyright and Unattributed image tags too.
I would tend to use the "image update" tag, though it very rarely attracts any response from the originating uploader, so is debatable whether it's worth adding verses just downloading and re-upload the image with more appropriate image name yourself (you can check out Image:Perplexing Plague quest map.jpg for an example of where I've just re-uploaded someone else's image), hope this helps. Regards Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 01:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
All right. Was just wondering because I started to look through images called Gw:003 or w/e (special:prefixindex ftw) and noticed some of them were actually important, like the one on the Monk Dwarven armor page. Thanks, --Shadowcrest 01:32, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I know all too well as you say, many have ended up in mainspace articles. I know there's a few people working on projects to "cleanup" the armor and weapon pages, part of that I understand is to start using a standard image name format, although I've not been following it too closely, been more focused on the quest articles.
Basically, the only options which are likely to return a quick result is either:
  1. "do nothing", ie, "let sleeping dogs lie", generic image names do not actually harm anything, is a minor irritation to those of us that like things neater, plus the potential issue of "what happens if someone else uploads image with same generic name", which of course is the main reason for avoiding em)
  2. "fix it yourself", in other words, do the download, re-upload with appropriate credit to the original uploader etc; slow, painful, unglamous work, but probably the quickest way to "resolve" the use of a generic named image in a mainspace article.
From my past experiences, tagging a bunch of images with "Image update" achieved very little. :( --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 01:52, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Back again after a few weeks break

While wasn't able to stay entirely away, did make a few visits to GuildWiki mainly to tidy up some Wintersday quests etc, did decide to spend some quaility time away. But am now back, refreshed and ready for more wiki action... now I just have to wade through My Watchlist of changed articles, oh joys! :) --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 00:46, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

May I ask

why you kinda messed up my signature on entropy's talk page?--Marcopolo47 signature new (Talk) (Contr.) 05:07, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Huh? Why would I want to? Please give me more detail, caz the only "changes" I've made to E's talk page was to add some throughts to the How many topic. --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 05:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
the part above your paragraph. I'm sure it was accidental though.--Marcopolo47 signature new (Talk) (Contr.) 05:26, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Weird, haven't a clue where that came from! The comment I added, but how that extraneous text got pasted there, no idea. You certainly should know by now I'd not go about "sabotaging" yours or anyone's signture for that matter, you really could have just edited it out and be done with it. --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 05:36, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

it amazes me...

that people revert vandalism and don't put a ban tag on. If it was something that could pass for a mistake type vandalism fine, but for obvious things like that just ban them, imo :P --Shadowcrest 05:20, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Well if you check the Recent Changed logs, you might notice I'm a tad busy with category fixing at the same time! It amazes me how very few people take note of some who's working diligently on a brain-dead but useful task like the Uncategorized Pages list and offer encouragement or assistance, but hesitate for a second with banning or wait to see if a vandal has had their jollys and left, and someone finds it necessary to post a sarcastically-worded comment. :( --Wolfie Wolfie sig (talk|contribs) 05:34, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
I did notice. You've been at it for the past few days, actually. You removed my nice comment on it :P And actually that wasn't really directed at you, I just looked a few vandal's contributions from the last few hours and noticed. --Shadowcrest 05:40, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Guides

Hey Wolfie, I've seen that you do a lot of "cleaning up" pages around the wiki (which is great work btw). I've been trying to contribute as best as I can, but I don't want to add stuff to articles and then make you come behind me to clean it up. So, what style guides do you stick to, or in other words, what Style Guides do you use most frequently? Vidar816 21:58, 22 January 2008 (UTC)